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Say a lie enough times and others will repeat it.

Cross posted on At The Water Cooler

The title is playing with the saying "repeat a lie enough times and others will believe it." Many times these repeated lies are based on fallacies, which until they start to be repeated are ignored. These lies do not solve problems - it is often not clear when they are lies that will vanish because of how foolish they are or if they need a response.

Some of these lies which I am thinking about in this post fall into a group, which belong to a group called stereo typing. They are nonsense so they are dismissed the first time around - but become hideous when picked up by those who fail to see the fallacy - those who are tricked by the deception.

Take for example "It is racist to not support universal health care." The statement is hideous in multiple ways.

It is apparent that the statement is intended to put a chill on those who don't support universal health care. Christians do not want to be seen as racist, or seen as stereo typing a population. The intent of the statement is to silence people by raising the level of the rhetoric to a level of verbal violence. I for one take Jesus at his word that if you hate your brother without cause you have committed murder in your heart (Matthew 5:22).

Prayer Regarding Coffee Party Sabotaging – Stereotyping a group of people by actions of one is evil

I could find a person who self identifies himself with any type of group or race; Christian, Catholic, Baptist - Democrat, Republican - White, Black - American, Mexican ... And find an action that is objectionable. The Good book tells us all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God - If I could see into the heart of members of a group I could find something objection in every member.

With God's help we can overcome sin and every time we do get closer to God - understand God better - grow in our lives and our relationships with other people. When we overcome sin we no longer plant sin and no longer reap it.

Crash the tea party is planning to Sabotage those who care enough about their fellow citizens to sacrifice their time in an attempt to make those in power hear the grievances of the people.


... "We will act on behalf of the Tea Party in ways which exaggerate their least appealing qualities (misspelled protest signs, wild claims in TV interviews, etc.) to further distance them from mainstream America and damage the public's opinion of them. We will also use the inside information that we have gained in order to disrupt and derail their plans." ...


April 15th – Is day you pay for The State's Social Justice good works.

Cross posted on At the Water cooler

Sacrifice, not money is what Jesus did for us; is what he taught us. He chased the merchants out of the temple. People were buying their "sacrifice" from these merchants. Jesus was angered, this was not what God has in mind when he calls us to sacrifice and to charity. It is not what he has in mind with the word faith.

4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up;

5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;

6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth with the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Charity never falleth away: whether prophecies shall be made void, or tongues shall cease, or knowledge shall be destroyed.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away.


13 And now there remain faith, hope, and charity, these three: but the greatest of these is charity.

Do we lack the faith that the body of Christ can help the poor and now place faith in big Government to take care of those in need? Do we cast our burden on big Government?

Discerning Narcissism or Pride? Harry Reid: “Everybody acknowledges with rare exception that what we did … was terrific”

Cross posted from At the water cooler

Via Hengler, the money quote comes at around 1:05



It is far from true that "Everybody acknowledges with rare exception that what we did … was terrific." If even a large minority of voters thought is was terrific Reid would not be facing a difficult election. 62% of Nevadians support repealing Obamacare


The name "narcissism" is derived from Greek mythology. Narcissus was a handsome Greek youth who rejected the desperate advances of the nymph Echo.



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Rodney King, Emmanuel Cleaver, Steve Cohen (D, TN-09), Riots were not the intention

Here is a few portions from Wikipedia about the 1992 Los Angeles riots.

... The 1992 Los Angeles Riots, also known as the 1992 Los Angeles Civil Unrest,[1][2][3] were sparked on April 29, 1992, when a jury acquitted four Los Angeles Police Department officers accused in the videotaped beating of African-American motorist Rodney King following a high-speed pursuit. Thousands of people in the Los Angeles area rioted over the six days following the verdict. At that time, similar, smaller riots and anti-police actions took place in other locations in the United States and Canada.[4] Widespread looting, assault, arson and murder occurred, and property damages topped roughly US$1 billion. In all, 53 people died during the riots and thousands more were injured.[5]

... King had led police on a high-speed car chase and, after driving through several red lights and boulevard stops, had pulled over in the Lake View Terrace district. In a later interview, King, who was on parole from prison on a robbery conviction and who had past convictions for assault, battery and robbery,[7][8] said that, being on parole, he feared apprehension and being returned to prison for parole violations. ...

Attorney General Kelly against the right to a obamacare trial

Cross posted from At the water cooler

I am not sure if I should frame this post around the bill of rights, 10th Amendment, or legal principles of due process and right to petitions the court for redress of grievances.

The right to petition the court for redress of grievances has a big, big, impact on a society. It provides a safety valve in providing a correct alternative to somebody seeking to redress their grievances on their own. To use a cliche: "don't get even take them to court." Would people riot for "social justice" if they could get justice in a court of law? How silly would one need to be to even consider not using the court system. Societies without the right to redress grievances turn to violence this is simple political science.

Our legal system gives defendants an attorney - even when it is clear they are guilty. This is due process everyone has a right to a defense to have their day in court. How could an "attorney" not understand this concept?

Well this is the title for Kelly's blog post:

Sign my petition to Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum and 12 other AGs today -- and urge them to drop their lawsuit against the historic health care reform bill - www.kelly2010.com/node/641


Conyers points to the Social Justice clause as basis for forced health care.

Conyers is Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. In an interview Conyers points to a clause he calls, “the good and welfare clause,” additionally he says, “couple others,” give congress the authority to pass laws that require people to purchase services from who the Federal government declares as the provider of such services.

Constitutional scholars who have made there statements public have not been able to find “the good and welfare clause.” What the scholars can find is the “commerce clause” – (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3). The clause states that the United States Congress shall have power “To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes”.

Apparently un-named scholars of the House Judiciary Committee – which is the committee that has some power to reject judiciary appointments – take on the constitution is that the congress has powers which appear to not have been enumerated and they exist without the need to amend the constitution. Since they are not enumerated one needs to speculate on what the powers the House Judiciary Committee may see.

What the Commerce clause does do is take the power to tax goods and services, or levy a tariff, for transactions “between states” or with foreign nations or Indian Tribes, away from the state. It gives the authority to the Federal Government to tax imports from foreign nations to raise revenue, or even block trade with other nations such as Cuba, Iran, North Korea.

Gen. 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth ...

Romans 11:25 (King James Version) For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Today there are some 10,000 to 15,000 Messianic Jews in Israel. Jesus was a Jew. His disciples were Messianic Jews. Christians are Messianic believers. We are all brothers and sisters in Christ. We need each other's support!

Unicef is funding Anti-Semitic hate.

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Rep. Alan Boyd (D-FL) – His deciding principle – Money

I've heard the talking heads say that people would respect Democrats that are willing to stand on principle and not be moved by a mere majority of Americans. They neglect the reality that the number of Americans that reject Obamacare is considerably more than a mere majority - It is approaching the numbers that would be needed to for Constitution convention. What is this righteous principle that they are standing on?

DEAL WATCH: Boyd a “Yes” Vote on Gov’t Health care Takeover After His Forest Bill Passes House

Was this Yet Another Backroom Deal to Force Obama’s Bill Down the American People’s Throats?

With a vote on Obama and Pelosi’s government takeover of health care expected tomorrow, Rep. Alan Boyd (D-FL) finally got off the fence and announced yesterday that he would vote “yes” for the bill.

Boyd’s announcement came just days after one of his pet bills passed the House. Boyd is the sponsor of a bill, the Florida National Forest Land Adjustment Act of 2009 (H.R. 3954). The bill languished in committee after being introduced in October 2009. Suddenly, though, it received a vote Thursday in the House.

Boyd’s bill was not originally on the schedule for this week when it was released by Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) last Friday. However, Thursday it appeared on the calendar and was passed this afternoon in the full House.

Will Boyd come clean about this apparent backroom deal for his vote?

Freedom of Information or is Information now property of the Government?

Hot Air: Democratic memo instructs staffers to mislead voters and media on “doctor fix”


As most health staff knows, Leadership and the White House are working with the AMA to rally physicians support for a full SGR repeal later this spring. However, both health and communications staff should understand that we do not want that policy discussed at this time, lest I [sic] complicate the last critical push for health reform.


Can anybody tell me why an Office which must be open to the public because of FOIA laws. Unlike a private office which does not need to be open or follow FOIA laws. Should not allow videos to be made?

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